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Jay: /Sorry, I'm not used to that.
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I didn't know it was gonna yell at me.
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Yep.
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. It's fine.
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Zoom.
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I've gotten so used to Riverside, like
I'm just sitting here wondering in the
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background if I have audio actually
recording or is this just gonna be one
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of those that I give up to the Gods
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?
Gary: Holy shit, that's, Can I
record it to be safed on this side?
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Jay: It's gonna be, It's not gonna
matter because we've got her too.
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Unless you want to hear a conversation
between you and I without a third.
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That could be funny.
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It could be like dude,
what are they called?
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Madlibs, where you just insert what
you think the third party said.
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Gary: Yeah, have some fun with that.
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Might have a million questions
about Falcons though that you're
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not gonna be able to answer.
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Exactly.
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Jay: We actually do have a third
person today, Doctor Margit.
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My name is Jay.
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Welcome to the Tragedy Academy, a show
created to bridge societal divides in a
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judgment free zone using candor and humor.
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Gary, what's going on my man?
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Gary: How you doing?
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Jay: Living the dream.
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We're both repping into the AM today.
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I just noticed that.
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Gary: Oh yeah.
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Jay: We both have on their basic
tees, which are super comfortable.
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Yes.
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So please go to our website
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Makes me look like I have muscles.
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Makes you feel like you have muscles.
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They do fit right.
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They have some, I don't know, alien
technology around the gut area.
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Gary: Yeah, I can't breathe,
but it looks really good.
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Jay: Thank you so much Dr.
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Margit for joining us.
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Dr.
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Margit is a Master life
Coach, professional, certified
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coach, an NLP master.
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Definitely wanna ask about that today.
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Certified mindfulness practitioner.
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Veterinarian and speaker, and an award
winning author and something really cool.
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The executive director of
Abu Dhabi Falcon Hospital.
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How you doing today, Dr.
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Margaret?
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Dr. Margit: Wonderful.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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It's an honor.
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Jay: It's an honor to have you.
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I'm looking forward to
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Dr. Margit: I think it'll
be a really great show.
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Jay: Absolutely, Absolutely.
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And you know, we were looking at all of
your stuff earlier and we couldn't stop
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sending each other links back and forth
because you've just got so many cool
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things going on, different articles.
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And I want to, I do wanna ask though,
the NLP stuck out to me because we
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have a friend of the Ryan Montis.
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Do you know him?
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Dr. Margit: I don't
know him personally, no.
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Jay: Okay.
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But you're familiar with him.
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Is that the same program?
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Dr. Margit: It's pretty similar actually.
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Yeah.
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NLP is super cool and a lot of people
have some prejudices, regarding NLP,
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but I think it's something extremely
helpful, something that people can really
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use, and I think people need to be a
bit more aware what it really means.
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Jay: Do you want to tell us what it is?
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Dr. Margit: Yes, I'm happy to do so
because a lot of people think nlp, it's
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like a kinda brainwash, you know, like a
kinda, you get some ideas planted in your
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brain and then you have to do it, but it's
something completely different actually.
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And I think the idea of
NLP is actually that.
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You really go back to those self-limiting
beliefs that you really go to those
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things which you cannot really.
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Yeah., sometimes, which are even
in your subconscious mind, and its
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important that you visit those things
and then you can change them through
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certain techniques that N L P.
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Teaches you that a
coach can help you with.
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for example, you can change perspectives.
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Let's say you are in a difficult
situation and you're so much
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absorbed in this situation that
you don't see a way out anymore
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because it's just too much for you.
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So, for example, n helps you to change
the perspective, to detach from the
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situation, to dissociate a little
bit, to become a bit more neutral.
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And then to look at the situation
from the outside, for example.
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Jay: Right.
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So, I'm sorry, I just want to ask
a question slash see if I get an
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understanding because when I talked
to Ryan Montis about this, one of the
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things that was, uh, super interesting
to me is that it utilizes, mindfulness
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and meditation practice to access that
particular part of the mind and show you
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that these particular feelings that we
get from childhood or experiences are
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actually veils that are created out of
fear that you could actually move through.
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But you are yes, stifled in your everyday
life, living in that emotional cyclone.
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Without realizing that you can
actually just step out of it and
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move on to something different.
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Dr. Margit: Exactly.
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I wouldn't even call it veils.
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I would call it even layers
that sometimes are so tough.
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One layer above the other one that
it's hard for you to access the
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one which is most underneath.
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And you need to remove layer by
layer to reach to that place.
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And that is very important.
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Cause this is like, as you said,
correct, It can be caused by
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fear, it can be caused by trauma.
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It can even be caused by a kind of
misunderstanding in your childhood.
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And once you are able to start accessing.
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Those certain experiences
or fear or trauma.
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Then slowly, slowly, slowly, you can
start to overcome them because you
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can start processing them because you
start to become aware of them, and
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that is essential because this is key.
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Once you are not able to reach there
and to start processing, you cannot
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overcome it, and an LP can create to help
you in this as well as inner dynamic.
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Jay: I love that you said something
in particular in that and that
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it was a misunderstanding in
childhood, people forget that it's
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not necessarily an outside catalyst
that can cause this kind of viewpoint
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that you have on your reality.
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It can be the simple misunderstanding
of a facial expression as to how
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somebody might feel about you.
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And the last moment you saw.
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To create some kind of bizarre reality
that you have tied to that person where
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they actually, in your mind, believe
you are a kind of person, you'll create
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a personality in somebody else's eyes.
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It can be based on your
own interpretation.
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Dr. Margit: Yes, it can be this because
you have to think that a child looks
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at the world in a different way.
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The whole world revolves around a child.
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I mean, we as an adult look at it from
a different point of view, but as a
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child, you are the center of the world.
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You project each single
thing on you, on yourself.
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Mm.
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Don't understand that
sometimes things are different.
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And for example, I had one client and
, she had a conversation with her mother
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when she was only four years old and
her mother was suffering from cancer.
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So her mother told her
that she has cancer now.
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The little girl understood
that she herself has cancer.
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So it was a totally misunderstanding.
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Oh, because everything around
herself, Cause she's child, you
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know, she, this differentiation.
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So all her life she actually thought that
she has, so went from doctor to doctor.
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She couldn't sleep at night.
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She woke because she was, she has cancer.
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And then I did in dynamic sessions
with her, and we did also nlp,
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but mainly in the dynamics.
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So we.
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Back to the subconscious mind,
to the conversation that happened
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when she was the young girl.
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And then we found out that it was actually
this conversation that was misunderstood.
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She misunderstood it.
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And once she understood the point
that it was her mother's not her own
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cancer, She was totally relieved.
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I sent her to a doctor to
get a full checkup to be
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sure that everything is fine.
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She was a hundred percent okay.
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And then what she told me after was,
You know, it's the first night I can
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really sleep without having fear that I'm
suffering from cancer and it's a relief.
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And I suffered from this 44 years.
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So just think about this,
the freedom, impact it had.
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Yes, the freedom.
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And this new life that she could
create because she knew now.
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It was just a misunderstanding
in the conversation.
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So it, it is amazing what you
can do with these kinda tools.
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It is amazing.
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Gary, you had a question It looked like,
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Gary: Yeah, I was just processing it
I'm 43, so I couldn't imagine like
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thinking that way my whole life and
then all of a sudden, like I was wrong
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based on one thing when I was four.
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It's kind of like, I had a, I had a
friend that we were friends on Instagram,
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we texted for a long time, and we had
a little bit of an argument recently.
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It was just off the tone of a text that
was, she thought I meant it in a certain
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way that I, I totally didn't, you know,
we finally talked about it yesterday
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in, I was, you know, actually on the
phone and I just explained what I meant.
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She's like, Oh, I'm so stupid.
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Like, I totally just thought it was
something else and you know, I had this
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other person do something that it was
similar to what I thought that you did.
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And then, completely, you
know, misunderstanding.
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But she's over there probably thinking,
this guy's a jerk, and like he doesn't
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take me seriously and all this stuff.
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And I'm like, It's not even
what I was talking about.
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Like, totally a different topic, you know?
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Yes.
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So I think it's kinda the same thing.
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Jay: You will layer
experiences on that too.
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You'll have mock misunderstandings
with that person trialing it.
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Dr. Margit: Yes.
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Jay: Over and over to
get a different outcome.
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Dr. Margit: Yes
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Jay: Until you drive
yourself bat shit crazy.
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And the next time you see 'em, you
actually have anxiety for something
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that never existed in the now.
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Yes, exactly.
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So weird.
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We have a mental illness just being alive.
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Dr. Margit: Yeah, that's true.
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The point that you mention.
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So important that just a simple
misunderstanding, even in the tone
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of voice, which you don't mean, but
the other person understands it in
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their own way, can really create
such a misunderstanding that it
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really starts festering in your mind.
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It starts blocking your mind.
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It is changing your mindset
and it is changing the way
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how you deal with that person.
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And from a real great friendship,
something really disastrous can
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come out and that's where we
really need to think to step back.
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And also, Yeah.
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And that's what we are doing in nlp
actually, to associate ourselves
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from the situation and to look at
it from a neutral point of view.
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When we look at it from a neutral point
of view and we try to put ourselves in
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the position of the other person, then
we'll see that, Oh, it's not like this.
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It's not like how we thought.
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And then you can really
see what's the reality.
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But a lot of people don't
know how to do that.
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Jay: Tough.
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Yeah.
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Letting somebody have a key to your
meditation room inside your head.
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That you are allowing them in while
you are meditating with the ability
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to identify those particular areas
and talk to you while it's happening.
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Super weird, but makes complete sense.
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When you think about the way that
the mind works, and I think I
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described it last week as a cyclone.
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And it's literally meditation is sitting
in the center of it and watching like the
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cow, the house, the truck or whatever.
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And I expanded upon it the other
day when I was thinking about it.
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And I imagine that the inside of that is
like a snow globe where you're sitting
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inside that snow globe, but that snow
globe, you can actually reach through.
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You can reach through it, grab
things and bring it back in.
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So you can grab the cow, but
the cow might be a experience
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or a thought about something.
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And when you pull it inside,
suddenly it is now your reality.
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If you don't grab it, it's not.
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But the moment you give that life
and pull it in, it's now your reality
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until you let it go and you pick the
next thing in that cyclone to grab.
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I honestly believe that we all have one
cyclone and we're just picking thoughts,
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but that's a whole nother fucking bucket.
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Gary: I have no idea what
you're talking about at all.
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I lost you at like the snow globe part.
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I was like,
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Jay: Did you catch me, Dr.
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Margaret?
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Dr. Margit: I love the snow globe part.
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Gary: It's,
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I was, was with you and
then now I'm like's a,
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Jay: it's a protected area
inside the cyclone, right?
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That's all.
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Gary: He, he confuses me often.
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Jay: I love it though.
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Sometimes I continue
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Gary: halfway through I was
like, Oh, I finally got one of
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these, and I'm like, Nope, nope.
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I have no idea what's talking about.
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Jay: I added the snow globe
to it and f'd him all up.
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Gary: I'll have to study the topic
more to have a little more context,
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think it's, it's hard to like take
yourself out of it when you're
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emotionally attached to something too.
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It's like when you're in a bad
relationship and all your friends tell you
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it sucks and your girlfriend's terrible
and all this, and you're, in it too
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deep and you don't feel that way, but
everyone objectively is seeing, things
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going wrong and you're so emotionally
attached that you can't step back and
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be like, Wow, that's just going wrong.
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Dr. Margit: But that's exactly the point
where mental health coaching and NLP
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can help you because as you say, So much
emotionally attached to the other person
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that you're not able to look at the whole
situation from a neutral point of view.
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And once you do mental health coaching,
you set up your mind in a correct way.
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Again, you, get out of this
very tight emotional attachment.
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You get out of it and you look at
this situation from outside, and
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once you're able to do that and,
you dissociate, then you're able
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to touch on it in a better way.
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You see what's really happening,
but you cannot see this while
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you are in the very situation.
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If you have this emotional attachment,
you are not able to see reality.
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What you think you see in this emotional
attachment, but you are not seeing the
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really reality to say it like that.
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And once you're able to look at it from
outside, you change the perspective,
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then you'll understand why your
friends say it's a toxic relationship.
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Gary: Yeah
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Dr. Margit: Because you see that.
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The way how, let's say your partner deals
with you, It's not in the correct way.
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It's not in the way how it
should be to support each
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other when you love each other.
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So, it really helps to look at things
from a different point of view, and
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it helps to really clear your mind
because if your mind is too much
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involved in all of this, , you are not
able to see how things are in reality.
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Gary: Yeah, that makes sense.
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Jay: You can't trust yourself.
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Your mind over rationalizes anything.
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You need that third party in there.
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Dr. Margit: Exactly.
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Jay: And what we don't even realize
is our entanglement is so deep.
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Yes.
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That we actually have an addiction
to the feeling of the fear associated
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with that particular situation.
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So much so that we will heighten it
to a point where we think that the
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anxiety attack is something we don't
want, but we're actually living in it
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because that's all we know how to do.
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Dr. Margit: Exactly, and it's also
something that support to protect you.
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I mean, for example, inner dynamics.
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We are talking about the parts
that we have in ourselves.
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You know, sometimes we say, Oh, a part
of me would like to go to the movies,
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and another part of me would like to sit
on the couch just to watch a TV show.
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So these are parts that are talking to us.
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And in situations like you
mentioned, there might be a.
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That tries to protect you from,
Yeah, From being hurt, from
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being hurt from the partner.
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But inside then that's a protector part.
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But inside you have this vulnerable
part, this part that's very close
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to really you that has been heard
before, but doesn't want to be
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heard again, and it's stuck there.
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So the patterns of behavior is changing,
but you try to protect yourself from
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pain, from hurt, from, this of feeling
also of loneliness because what happens
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if this relationship breaks down?
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You have to start new.
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You have to create a new life
for yourself and, And you're so
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much attached to the partner.
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Yeah.
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Also, it might be toxic, but this
is what we do in inner dynamics.
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We try to remove this protector part.
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To let it understand that you had
been hurt and to, Yeah, to remove
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this burden that is so deep in your
subconscious mind that you even don't
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know that it exists, that it is there.
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And once you start to realize it
is there and you start to access
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it, then you can start to heal it.
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And once you start heating
it, the pain will go.
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And that's when my clients say, you know,
it's like a burden is falling from my.
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Because that's what, it's literally,
it's a burden that comes off.
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And once this comes off, those protector
parts, they start to relax because
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now they know that the pain is gone,
the hurt is gone, this burden is gone.
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So they can just help you to
create a new life, and that is
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so essential to live happily.
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Jay: It's like the Wizard of Oz.
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Once you get a chance to peek
behind the curtain, you see what
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it's actually being created out of.
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Dr. Margit: Yes.
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Jay: It becomes complete
and total nonsense.
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It has to be so liberating as
you peel back those layers.
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Dr. Margit: Yeah.
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Jay: And you get to breathe.
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Dr. Margit: Yeah
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Jay: I mean, essentially to me, my
anxiety represents itself as like an
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anvil on my chest, and as I meditated
over the last three years, it slowly
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becomes less and less of a weight.
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Or it becomes something that I just
understand is there but doesn't
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actually have the ability to kill me.
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It has no ability.
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It's just there.
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And I'm only feeling it because the
emotional attachment that I have to
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whatever the situation is, that's it.
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Nothing more, nothing less.
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Dr. Margit: Yes.
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Jay: And I think when you get
to lighten that load on somebody
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and they get a chance to take
that deep breath and realize that
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they've been afraid of the boogie.
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For so long.
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It's literally that.
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That's what's so sad about all of it.
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Dr. Margit: Yes, exactly.
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And that's so liberating actually,
because in the end, once you're able
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to remove this and those burdens, youre
coming back to your real self, your core
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self, inner self, and this is creating
this state of serenity, of kindness.
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Once you feel this state, then you are
able to understand how to go back to it.
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And that's exactly what you said.
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This is, this is the state where, yeah,
nothing can harm you anymore because
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things become very clear, become very
peaceful, very calm, and meditation
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helps a lot with this because your mind.
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Going round and round and round
because we had like, our mind
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is like in a medical round.
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It never stops.
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We go from thought to thought to
thought, and it's never ending.
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And a lot of those thoughts are not
required because we have worries never
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move on.
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But we are not focusing just on
the present, on the very now.
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And that is so important.
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And that's where mindfulness
and, and meditation.
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Greatly, greatly helps.
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And I do a meditation, uh, a free
meditation session, uh, for people.
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And, and once I do this meditation
with, After this, they say, Oh my
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God, you know, we did one meditation.
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The guy said, You know, it's
the first time in 34 years that
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I can hear my heart beaten.
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Because in the meditation he slowed
down so much that he was able to
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listen to his heartbeat and to himself.
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And this shows how much we are
already out of a naturalist.
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State of being.
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Um, that's why it's so important
to create this state of peace,
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of kindness, of serenity.
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Um, that's where yeah, you dynamics and
meditation and mindfulness greatly helps
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Jay: us being able to monitor
your autonomic system and using
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your breath as a metronome.
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Yeah.
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And not having to actually attach
it to yourself is something that
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comes with time, but you can't mess
it up if you continue to do it.
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It's bizarre to.
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I'm not a religious person.
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I am though of the belief that most
people are right, kind of thing, that
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it's kind of a collective understanding.
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But faith for me was always something
hard for me to get my head to wrap around.
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And the only time in life that I've
ever been able to do that is meditation.
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And here's how it was.
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It was the moment that I
didn't breathe for myself.
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I know that sounds weird, but if I tell
you to breathe, you will take over.
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We're so arrogant in our
mental illness that we actually
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believe we can catch our breath.
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No, it does it on its own.
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You can stick a bag over your mouth or
whatever, but I promise you you're gonna.
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It's gonna happen, yes,
but we take it over.
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But in meditation, there's a
moment where you say, Okay, this
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one's not gonna come from me.
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And you step off a cliff and
you feel it pull itself back up.
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And it's hard at first to allow
it to continue to do that.
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But after a little while of, you
know, repeating this exercise even.
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You have faith in the fact that you
will breathe while you're focusing
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on it without doing it yourself.
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Yes.
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I don't know if that makes sense to
anybody else, but that was the only
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way that I could rationalize it.
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Gary, I'm seeing are you in
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Gary: a snow globe
While you're doing this,
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Jay: see, but I describe the look
that you have on myself all the
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time as a pig staring at a wrist.
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Like just come confundled.
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Gary: Yeah.
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thought I had it again, and then I
was, Now we're jumping off cliffs
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and are we back from the cyclone?
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I mean, , it hurt my brain to get
there, but I'm there my merry go
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rounds going so fast right now.
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It's,
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Jay: That's an ad.
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that's a soundbite for the show.
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Just have you sit there and say that tune
in and have you just lay off that entire
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Gary: line.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I, No, it's
like working overtime.
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It's like, you know, got something wrong
with your engine and it's really got a
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crank to turn over, but then once you
get going, like, then it's run fine.
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Yeah.
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Jay: That's what happened.
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Love it.
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That's kind of like, uh,
push starting a stick.
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.
Gary: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Stick shift car.
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Yeah,
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Jay: stick shift car.
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So, well then let's, uh, let's
lighten this a little bit.
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Step away from maybe the mental
health for a moment, cuz I
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need to know about falconry.
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That is so damn cool.
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You're a veterinarian and you are a
proponent for healing through animals.
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Dr. Margit: Yes, exactly.
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Um, FNS are very, very unique.
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I was actually the first female
veterinarian, the first female fon
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doctor here in, in the Middle East,
in, in Abu Dhabi, United Arabs.
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And when I came here 20 years ago, oh
my god, you know, the Faunas were not
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even used to have a hospital there.
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I mean, it was still, um, very much
in the beginning and when I came.
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They thought a woman is
never able to do that job.
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I mean, of course it was a male dominated,
Well, just all the falcons were men.
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And what's the beauty of it?
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Most of the Falcons are female because
the female falcon is the large one.
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They have one third larger than the
male, so Oh, huge, big, beautiful Falcon.
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Of course.
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A female means also, they're
more expensive than the MAs.
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This is like in real life, you know, , the
ladies are always more expensive, so the
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Jay: men know that , it's the fancier car.
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It's the one with the turbo.
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It's the weather seeds.
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It's, it's one step up.
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I, I get it.
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I'm, I'm with you.
470
00:23:29,632 --> 00:23:30,232
Exactly.
471
00:23:30,472 --> 00:23:32,632
Dr. Margit: So when I came here,
it was really, really difficult.
472
00:23:32,632 --> 00:23:36,052
You know, in the beginning,
the falconers refused to let me
473
00:23:36,052 --> 00:23:39,772
touch their falcons because they
thought, Oh my God, she's woman.
474
00:23:39,892 --> 00:23:41,272
She has no clue what she's doing.
475
00:23:41,277 --> 00:23:41,812
No, no, no.
476
00:23:41,872 --> 00:23:43,342
She CanCon.
477
00:23:43,792 --> 00:23:45,742
So they brought the falcon, their.
478
00:23:46,867 --> 00:23:48,797
Just for a peak examination.
479
00:23:48,797 --> 00:23:50,837
So you didn't even have
to touch this ficon.
480
00:23:50,837 --> 00:23:52,067
You chart took the droppings.
481
00:23:52,067 --> 00:23:53,507
You checked it in the microscope.
482
00:23:53,837 --> 00:23:55,677
But they came just to see, they
483
00:23:55,677 --> 00:23:57,557
Jay: brought side falcon.
484
00:23:57,577 --> 00:24:01,757
They brought you like a
knockoff falcon was one wing,
485
00:24:04,427 --> 00:24:08,317
Gary: like, like here's
a, that's a pigeon.
486
00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:09,797
I know what you're talking about.
487
00:24:09,797 --> 00:24:10,037
That.
488
00:24:11,057 --> 00:24:11,727
Dr. Margit: It was
489
00:24:11,727 --> 00:24:12,847
Jay: tough in the beginning.
490
00:24:14,217 --> 00:24:16,377
. I love that you stuck with it though.
491
00:24:16,617 --> 00:24:16,977
Yeah.
492
00:24:17,027 --> 00:24:21,287
You stuck with it and said, Okay,
give me your ugly pigeon I'm
493
00:24:21,287 --> 00:24:22,877
gonna give it a full examination.
494
00:24:23,237 --> 00:24:24,497
now give the, I
495
00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:27,557
Dr. Margit: said they didn't want do
it, but then they had emergencies.
496
00:24:27,952 --> 00:24:29,602
So they didn't have another option.
497
00:24:29,692 --> 00:24:33,112
Ah, so they had to bring the falcon to
me and you know, they were half dying
498
00:24:33,117 --> 00:24:35,032
themselves to bring this ficon to me.
499
00:24:35,302 --> 00:24:38,722
But then they saw that the Falcons
are surviving and this actually
500
00:24:38,872 --> 00:24:40,012
started to make the change.
501
00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:41,692
But this took around one to two years.
502
00:24:41,697 --> 00:24:42,742
It didn't go in a month.
503
00:24:42,892 --> 00:24:44,842
It was a long, long, long time.
504
00:24:44,902 --> 00:24:44,962
So
505
00:24:45,242 --> 00:24:46,222
Jay: you didn't do it for them.
506
00:24:47,372 --> 00:24:49,492
You didn't do it for them,
you did it for the animals.
507
00:24:49,672 --> 00:24:50,302
Exactly.
508
00:24:50,482 --> 00:24:52,312
I did it for the, You have to.
509
00:24:52,312 --> 00:24:52,952
There's, there's
510
00:24:52,952 --> 00:24:53,992
Dr. Margit: no, to save the picon.
511
00:24:53,997 --> 00:24:55,222
I love the picon.
512
00:24:55,222 --> 00:24:57,712
You know, and they're just,
mind you looking their little
513
00:24:57,712 --> 00:24:59,482
black eyes, it's like magic.
514
00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:02,422
You know, you just, it's like
a virus that's catching you
515
00:25:02,427 --> 00:25:03,772
and that never lets you go.
516
00:25:03,777 --> 00:25:05,542
So they're really, really amazing.
517
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:06,872
Such magnificent
518
00:25:07,232 --> 00:25:07,472
Jay: ous.
519
00:25:07,642 --> 00:25:12,322
I'm super enamored with it because I
had, um, I had a lot of experiences here
520
00:25:12,327 --> 00:25:14,752
on of where I live with Red Tail Hawk.
521
00:25:15,082 --> 00:25:17,062
They are everywhere here.
522
00:25:17,062 --> 00:25:19,372
I've got some that follow me, that scream.
523
00:25:19,372 --> 00:25:22,882
They're always around and I've,
it's been something that has been
524
00:25:22,887 --> 00:25:27,277
on my mind for years and when I
watch these falconry videos, So
525
00:25:27,487 --> 00:25:31,327
what does a Falcon injury look like?
526
00:25:31,387 --> 00:25:32,227
Because they're hunting.
527
00:25:32,287 --> 00:25:33,877
That's what they use
these for, essentially,
528
00:25:33,877 --> 00:25:34,117
Dr. Margit: right?
529
00:25:34,117 --> 00:25:34,867
Yes, exactly.
530
00:25:34,872 --> 00:25:39,067
Because here in the Middle East Falcons
have always been used for hunting, never
531
00:25:39,067 --> 00:25:44,257
as a sport, but as a necessity to hunt,
meet, to let the veterans family survive.
532
00:25:44,927 --> 00:25:48,707
So, uh, in the old days when old
days is just 50 years ago, actually,
533
00:25:49,007 --> 00:25:53,567
when the fons were still beds in the
desert, the fcon was essential to hunt
534
00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:55,337
the meat that the family could eat.
535
00:25:55,337 --> 00:25:58,547
And for this reason, Fons are not
regarded as a sports tool here.
536
00:25:58,547 --> 00:26:02,747
Like for example, in the US, Fcon
are guarded as a part of the family.
537
00:26:02,807 --> 00:26:05,867
They live with the, they have their
own place in the bedroom, , they
538
00:26:05,867 --> 00:26:07,307
live next to the side, bring you back
539
00:26:07,577 --> 00:26:08,947
Jay: food while it's hungry.
540
00:26:09,407 --> 00:26:12,257
It literally brings you
back food while it's hungry.
541
00:26:12,437 --> 00:26:14,657
That's a bond that no
other animal will do.
542
00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:16,367
My dog won't bring me a burger.
543
00:26:16,867 --> 00:26:17,257
My dog
544
00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:18,247
Gary: eat the burger.
545
00:26:18,607 --> 00:26:19,087
That'd be awesome.
546
00:26:19,087 --> 00:26:20,857
If you could, I'd be
at her house a lot more
547
00:26:22,957 --> 00:26:23,857
Dr. Margit: You have to go there.
548
00:26:23,857 --> 00:26:28,657
But imagine a female ficon is able to
hunt and kill a, I mean, that's huge.
549
00:26:29,257 --> 00:26:29,527
That's,
550
00:26:30,337 --> 00:26:30,607
Jay: that's,
551
00:26:32,267 --> 00:26:33,757
Dr. Margit: that's blowing.
552
00:26:34,057 --> 00:26:35,197
Yes, absolutely.
553
00:26:35,202 --> 00:26:36,477
That's amazing.
554
00:26:36,867 --> 00:26:37,357
It's
555
00:26:37,357 --> 00:26:38,757
Jay: the wings span of a
556
00:26:38,757 --> 00:26:42,077
Dr. Margit: falcon one point
up to 1.2 or 1.3 meters in the
557
00:26:42,077 --> 00:26:43,297
large Falcons, the chi falcons.
558
00:26:43,297 --> 00:26:44,317
So it's pretty big
559
00:26:44,537 --> 00:26:45,157
Jay: six foot.
560
00:26:45,852 --> 00:26:47,022
Dr. Margit: Now, something like that.
561
00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:47,472
Exactly.
562
00:26:47,572 --> 00:26:47,992
Wow.
563
00:26:48,162 --> 00:26:51,792
And when they're flying, they're
able to catch another bird
564
00:26:51,822 --> 00:26:53,502
which weighs around, Yeah.
565
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:56,382
Three to six times of
their own body weight.
566
00:26:56,472 --> 00:27:00,552
They can hunt and kill it in
the air and fly away with it.
567
00:27:00,762 --> 00:27:03,402
Just imagine you carry
one term body weight.
568
00:27:03,402 --> 00:27:06,432
I can't even, but it
shows how strong, helpful.
569
00:27:06,882 --> 00:27:09,012
But females are, females not the.
570
00:27:10,007 --> 00:27:11,327
Jay: The women are always stronger.
571
00:27:11,327 --> 00:27:17,177
I do and I'm mad if I'm in
the animal kingdom with wings
572
00:27:17,477 --> 00:27:19,487
and somebody else with wings.
573
00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:20,027
Yes.
574
00:27:20,057 --> 00:27:21,137
Knocks me outta the sky.
575
00:27:21,267 --> 00:27:22,467
I'm pitch flying around.
576
00:27:22,467 --> 00:27:30,497
Everything's going on the ground,
don't I'm That's cannibalism, right?
577
00:27:30,947 --> 00:27:31,877
That's like a chicken.
578
00:27:32,047 --> 00:27:34,147
The kfc, jerk
579
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,117
Gary: FC doesn't actually have chicken.
580
00:27:39,702 --> 00:27:41,712
Dr. Margit: No, they're
absolutely, absolutely stunning.
581
00:27:41,712 --> 00:27:42,822
Absolutely amazing.
582
00:27:43,032 --> 00:27:45,402
But because, and that's where
we come back to what you asked.
583
00:27:45,942 --> 00:27:47,352
They can also fly very fast.
584
00:27:47,382 --> 00:27:52,932
They have a speed of around
to two or even up to per hour.
585
00:27:55,932 --> 00:27:59,822
And then of course they, they're
not able to see any obstacle
586
00:27:59,827 --> 00:28:01,062
that's between them and.
587
00:28:01,962 --> 00:28:03,762
So you can have a tree in between.
588
00:28:03,912 --> 00:28:08,862
You can have the owner in between, the
own in between and they'll hit, And
589
00:28:08,862 --> 00:28:17,112
we have places where comes to me for
has a leg, a broken owner, and in and
590
00:28:21,192 --> 00:28:21,732
Jay: with a goose.
591
00:28:21,732 --> 00:28:22,032
Yes.
592
00:28:22,122 --> 00:28:22,152
Oh
593
00:28:22,352 --> 00:28:25,472
Gary: man, . Yeah.
594
00:28:25,472 --> 00:28:26,712
That would be the felt I got.
595
00:28:26,712 --> 00:28:28,092
The one that just kept
running into me all.
596
00:28:29,947 --> 00:28:30,637
wouldn't
597
00:28:30,637 --> 00:28:36,317
Jay: a, that Falcon would just
continually ram into you over time?
598
00:28:36,317 --> 00:28:36,377
Gary: Yeah.
599
00:28:36,377 --> 00:28:39,377
Just walking out to go to work in the
morning and, and they just nails in bag.
600
00:28:39,377 --> 00:28:39,827
Like, come on.
601
00:28:40,347 --> 00:28:41,117
Like what?
602
00:28:43,587 --> 00:28:44,077
Dr. Margit: Yes'.
603
00:28:46,527 --> 00:28:46,877
Do
604
00:28:48,737 --> 00:28:51,617
Gary: I almost, uh, died at, when the
first time I visited him, there was a,
605
00:28:51,617 --> 00:28:54,257
what is a Sandhill crane like in the road?
606
00:28:54,547 --> 00:28:58,207
Three feet tall and just walking, came
around the corner and just almost hit it.
607
00:28:58,207 --> 00:29:01,297
And I didn't, Of course I didn't wanna
hit it, so I swerve and I'm like,
608
00:29:01,297 --> 00:29:03,507
Oh, , this thing's gonna even fly.
609
00:29:03,757 --> 00:29:05,047
Jay: We have a ton of them around here.
610
00:29:05,047 --> 00:29:06,007
They're protected.
611
00:29:06,007 --> 00:29:08,737
And they're like, Yes,
three to four feet tall.
612
00:29:08,737 --> 00:29:10,357
They bo they mate for life.
613
00:29:10,362 --> 00:29:15,334
And when an animal, there's, there's
a human bond that takes place.
614
00:29:15,394 --> 00:29:18,614
When humans find out that an.
615
00:29:19,354 --> 00:29:23,254
We'll mate for life, they go
ape shit to protect that animal.
616
00:29:23,734 --> 00:29:24,904
They love that animal.
617
00:29:24,904 --> 00:29:27,454
They have a bond with it, they need it.
618
00:29:27,514 --> 00:29:28,864
It's so weird.
619
00:29:29,224 --> 00:29:31,924
But there is some kind of
psychological things that says
620
00:29:32,494 --> 00:29:33,874
that needs to be protected.
621
00:29:34,304 --> 00:29:34,864
Pains,
622
00:29:36,064 --> 00:29:40,384
,
Dr. Margit: swans, what kinda,
anyways, evens are also for life, but
623
00:29:40,564 --> 00:29:42,034
that's the ultimate dream of every.
624
00:29:42,624 --> 00:29:45,984
To find a partner for life, and
I think that's the reason why
625
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:50,364
we project our own dreams on the
enemies and they're able to fulfill,
626
00:29:50,364 --> 00:29:52,044
which not of us are not able to do.
627
00:29:53,334 --> 00:29:54,174
Jay: Yes, exactly.
628
00:29:54,174 --> 00:29:54,624
That's it.
629
00:29:55,464 --> 00:29:56,814
That's absolutely true.
630
00:29:57,024 --> 00:29:57,404
Go ahead, Gary.
631
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,619
Gary: There's a, a lot of, Have you
ever met any of the UFC fighters
632
00:30:00,619 --> 00:30:03,379
that have gone over there and
done anything with the Falcons?
633
00:30:03,379 --> 00:30:07,819
I've seen like Cobe and some of the
other famous UFC fighters in Abu Dhabi
634
00:30:07,819 --> 00:30:09,889
have had no videos with the Falcons.
635
00:30:09,889 --> 00:30:11,119
Have you ever ran into any of them?
636
00:30:11,579 --> 00:30:11,929
No.
637
00:30:11,929 --> 00:30:12,169
No.
638
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:12,969
Dr. Margit: Unfortunately not.
639
00:30:13,069 --> 00:30:13,249
No
640
00:30:13,649 --> 00:30:13,889
?
Gary: Yeah.
641
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:14,389
Yeah.
642
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:17,669
Cause we, we have fights there a lot
in Abu Dhabi and then, I always see
643
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:20,769
videos with the guys, with the big
Falcon on their arm, , taking photo.
644
00:30:20,889 --> 00:30:20,949
Yeah.
645
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:21,339
You know.
646
00:30:21,899 --> 00:30:22,319
Yes,
647
00:30:22,589 --> 00:30:25,529
Dr. Margit: but mean fcon are special
because they're the only animals in
648
00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:28,319
the world that are allowed to put
the passenger cap in of our Arab
649
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,769
airplanes, , without a transport box.
650
00:30:30,949 --> 00:30:33,679
They travel like you and me as
a passenger, and it can happen
651
00:30:33,684 --> 00:30:36,949
to you when you're here in Abu
Dhabi airport or a Dubai airport.
652
00:30:37,219 --> 00:30:39,139
That ACON account has the on his arm.
653
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:40,349
Goes into the planes.
654
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:40,799
I love it.
655
00:30:40,899 --> 00:30:44,249
And the, I just has the hood on and
they just tie them with this little
656
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,999
tre, and that's how they go because
they're the children of the beds.
657
00:30:48,004 --> 00:30:48,919
It's not a bird.
658
00:30:48,919 --> 00:30:50,129
They're not considered as Bert.
659
00:30:50,429 --> 00:30:50,969
They're so much
660
00:30:50,969 --> 00:30:54,959
Jay: more, they'd have to
be, I mean, that bond is also
661
00:30:54,964 --> 00:30:56,489
something that's generational.
662
00:30:56,669 --> 00:30:56,939
Yes.
663
00:30:56,939 --> 00:31:00,029
It's the same thing that
happened with canines.
664
00:31:00,449 --> 00:31:04,169
We've spent so much time with
them relied on for so long.
665
00:31:04,169 --> 00:31:04,259
Yes.
666
00:31:04,289 --> 00:31:05,969
That we have literal.
667
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:09,569
Endorphin releases when
we touch each other.
668
00:31:09,809 --> 00:31:11,989
I can't imagine it's any
different with a hawk.
669
00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:16,244
After generations of spending
time with bloodlines, I would
670
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:20,084
imagine there's family lines that
probably keep the same falcons Yes.
671
00:31:20,084 --> 00:31:21,674
And read them over and over again.
672
00:31:21,674 --> 00:31:25,544
So DNA has memory, I don't
care what anybody says.
673
00:31:25,604 --> 00:31:29,364
It knows Your past lives
are your past relatives.
674
00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:30,754
Your lineage.
675
00:31:31,054 --> 00:31:31,264
Yes.
676
00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:34,504
And I, I feel like that that's gotta
be a bond that's like no other.
677
00:31:34,894 --> 00:31:35,974
Dr. Margit: That bond is amazing.
678
00:31:35,974 --> 00:31:40,834
And a lot of people say the Fcon likes
the falconer because he's feeding it.
679
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,404
But that's not the case because
you have this mutual relationship.
680
00:31:44,644 --> 00:31:49,054
And we did a test one time because here,
you know, the man worth is white dress.
681
00:31:49,114 --> 00:31:51,034
This white dress called Kora.
682
00:31:51,334 --> 00:31:54,994
So we wanted to know if the really
knows the owner or maybe they just
683
00:31:54,994 --> 00:31:56,824
know the dress and they just focus.
684
00:31:57,509 --> 00:32:00,449
So we took a fcon, we brought
some different people in.
685
00:32:00,449 --> 00:32:03,569
One was the owner and the fcon
could recognize the owner.
686
00:32:03,719 --> 00:32:06,479
So it has nothing to do with just
feeding or something like that.
687
00:32:06,479 --> 00:32:08,009
It's such a strong bond.
688
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:09,179
It is a love.
689
00:32:09,749 --> 00:32:12,269
And for example, when a fcon
has an emergency and they come
690
00:32:12,274 --> 00:32:15,939
to meet two o'clock at night
and uh, , they need a surgery.
691
00:32:16,464 --> 00:32:20,364
The Fcon will wait in the waiting
room, even three or four hours, and
692
00:32:20,364 --> 00:32:24,834
they might be crying because they're
emotionally so much stressed out
693
00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:26,674
because the fcon had the accident.
694
00:32:26,694 --> 00:32:30,864
So they wait until the Fcon breaks
up again, and it shows how strong
695
00:32:30,864 --> 00:32:35,234
this emotional bond is and what
you said before this end release.
696
00:32:35,664 --> 00:32:40,404
It is amazing and that's scientifically
proven that when you pet an email,
697
00:32:40,464 --> 00:32:44,814
it can be a dog or a cat, or even a
icon, even just for three to five.
698
00:32:45,564 --> 00:32:48,894
You have a release of endorphins,
of dopamine, of oxytocin, which
699
00:32:48,894 --> 00:32:51,894
are your happy hormones, your love
hormones, your wellbeing hormones.
700
00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:57,864
So this means that the animal, no matter
which one, helps you even to get in a
701
00:32:57,869 --> 00:33:03,954
better state and creates this happiness,
this wellbeing, this loving feeling.
702
00:33:04,254 --> 00:33:07,934
And this also helps our mental state
because this is what, keeps our sanity.
703
00:33:07,934 --> 00:33:10,244
This is what keeps our happiness,
and this is what keeps us.
704
00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:15,494
Jay: You could describe this as almost
like an energetic scenario where human
705
00:33:15,604 --> 00:33:22,544
beings operate at a lower frequency and
animals operate at a higher frequency,
706
00:33:22,544 --> 00:33:25,754
meaning they have less of the mental
illness, they live more in the now.
707
00:33:26,024 --> 00:33:29,774
And that when we spend time with those
animals and we're placing our hands on 'em
708
00:33:29,774 --> 00:33:34,694
and looking at 'em, we're actually taking
on the, now we're becoming mindful and
709
00:33:34,694 --> 00:33:36,374
we're sharing that moment with the animal.
710
00:33:36,374 --> 00:33:38,174
We just don't realize what's happen.
711
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:41,874
Dr. Margit: Yes, totally agree with you,
because this is what makes the change.
712
00:33:41,874 --> 00:33:46,284
And for example, if we look at
horses, horses are flight animals.
713
00:33:46,284 --> 00:33:47,664
They're very hypervigilant.
714
00:33:48,084 --> 00:33:51,864
But a horse can sense
your energetic state.
715
00:33:51,894 --> 00:33:55,824
It can sense what's going on with you,
even if it still meet us away from you.
716
00:33:56,004 --> 00:33:58,344
It senses this because it has.
717
00:33:59,754 --> 00:34:04,224
Yeah, feeling that it can get your
energy and for example, if you have
718
00:34:04,224 --> 00:34:08,964
people who have experienced very severe
trauma or anxiety and they're not even
719
00:34:08,969 --> 00:34:12,924
able to talk about it either with a
counselor or with a psychiatrist or with
720
00:34:12,924 --> 00:34:15,594
a coach, once they approach a horse.
721
00:34:15,918 --> 00:34:19,728
This horse is able to sense where
the pain and where the hurt is.
722
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:24,379
So the horse will go to the person and for
example, it'll put his head on the heart
723
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:29,659
or on the tummy or wherever, where it
can feel, where all this pain is located.
724
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:33,589
And those people who are not able to
talk to anybody about their experiences,
725
00:34:33,949 --> 00:34:35,569
they're able to open up to the horse.
726
00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:40,279
So they start talking to that
horse because this horse becomes
727
00:34:40,279 --> 00:34:42,589
a kind of confident con a.
728
00:34:43,619 --> 00:34:48,309
Way how they can protect these inner
feelings, even their fear, their traumatic
729
00:34:48,309 --> 00:34:52,089
experiences on, and they're able to
start communicating and to opening
730
00:34:52,089 --> 00:34:54,279
up, and that's what NS can do for us.
731
00:34:54,579 --> 00:34:55,869
It's simply amazing.
732
00:34:55,869 --> 00:35:00,099
And once we understand more, and that's
why I've written my, my, my award-winning
733
00:35:00,099 --> 00:35:04,139
book about pet Your Pill hundred and
one inspiration and stories about.
734
00:35:04,459 --> 00:35:06,889
Lead you to a happy,
healthy, and successful life.
735
00:35:07,309 --> 00:35:11,959
Once we understand a pet is not just
a dog to go out for a walk or a cat
736
00:35:11,959 --> 00:35:16,576
to play with or, a bird to sing with
or a horse to ride, it that there are
737
00:35:16,576 --> 00:35:21,956
so much more that they can help us to
heal and to access this inner feelings
738
00:35:21,956 --> 00:35:25,406
that we have the feel and we can
start processing it and they can help
739
00:35:25,406 --> 00:35:27,189
us to heal mentally and physically.
740
00:35:28,344 --> 00:35:32,204
We really can get so much more
benefit outta those animals.
741
00:35:32,444 --> 00:35:32,624
Jay: We
742
00:35:32,624 --> 00:35:35,024
don't deserve any more than
that, absolutely nothing.
743
00:35:35,024 --> 00:35:36,164
We don't deserve much more than that.
744
00:35:36,164 --> 00:35:40,064
We deserve an animal at a time because
we've proven that we're not capable of
745
00:35:40,494 --> 00:35:41,714
interacting with the animal kingdom.
746
00:35:41,924 --> 00:35:46,724
It's not that animals are
something that we are above.
747
00:35:46,994 --> 00:35:48,974
In fact, it's kind of vice versa.
748
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:51,199
Animals don't come to us.
749
00:35:51,259 --> 00:35:52,399
They'll go to each other.
750
00:35:52,399 --> 00:35:55,759
They'll hang out in groups of different
species, but they don't come near
751
00:35:56,059 --> 00:36:01,429
the batshit crazy human that keeps
trying to like poke it, prod it, eat
752
00:36:01,434 --> 00:36:04,029
it, scream at it, you know, Bri it.
753
00:36:04,034 --> 00:36:04,459
Yeah.
754
00:36:04,909 --> 00:36:05,929
Gary: Take it down and tie it
755
00:36:05,929 --> 00:36:06,139
Jay: up.
756
00:36:06,139 --> 00:36:07,849
All don't have anything to do with us
757
00:36:09,749 --> 00:36:09,869
Dr. Margit: actually.
758
00:36:09,874 --> 00:36:09,979
Yeah.
759
00:36:09,979 --> 00:36:10,729
It's sad that.
760
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:15,049
How we misunderstand animals
actually, and how cruel many
761
00:36:15,049 --> 00:36:16,609
people are with animals actually.
762
00:36:16,699 --> 00:36:20,232
And this is certainly something
that has to change because animals
763
00:36:20,232 --> 00:36:25,032
can do so much for us, so much more
than we can ever imagine, and they
764
00:36:25,032 --> 00:36:26,742
can change our lives to the better.
765
00:36:26,802 --> 00:36:28,842
And we just need to let them do it.
766
00:36:28,842 --> 00:36:31,782
They need, we just need to let
them help us and to look at
767
00:36:31,782 --> 00:36:32,802
them from a different point.
768
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:35,842
Gary: like violence and stuff
goes way down in prisons when
769
00:36:35,842 --> 00:36:38,722
they've introduced cats and
different animals into the prison.
770
00:36:38,722 --> 00:36:40,852
Like it's cut like immediately.
771
00:36:40,942 --> 00:36:41,212
Yes.
772
00:36:41,432 --> 00:36:42,412
Dr. Margit: Yes, exactly.
773
00:36:42,682 --> 00:36:45,412
And even if you have people who
are suffering from Alzheimer's for
774
00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:50,362
example, or Parkinson's or kind of
dementia even, they did studies.
775
00:36:50,367 --> 00:36:51,922
Even when they chat crickets.
776
00:36:52,282 --> 00:36:53,332
And I mean, we talk about.
777
00:36:53,987 --> 00:36:57,287
Already, their cognitive function
improves and they start climbing down.
778
00:36:57,347 --> 00:37:00,767
When they look at the fish tank, imagine
and just see the fish swimming in it.
779
00:37:01,157 --> 00:37:02,267
They start to relax.
780
00:37:02,267 --> 00:37:04,907
They're not, um, pounding around anymore.
781
00:37:04,907 --> 00:37:07,337
They start to settle down,
to sit down to watch them.
782
00:37:07,577 --> 00:37:12,437
So the impact they have is just
amazing, As you say, it's relaxing us.
783
00:37:12,437 --> 00:37:13,757
It brings us peace.
784
00:37:14,087 --> 00:37:16,704
It brings us , this serenity
just, we let it happen.
785
00:37:16,704 --> 00:37:17,694
We need to let it happen.
786
00:37:17,824 --> 00:37:19,774
Jay: We gotta be grateful for
the animals that allow us to.
787
00:37:20,744 --> 00:37:21,074
Dr. Margit: Actually true.
788
00:37:21,314 --> 00:37:24,584
And animals also can
sense , the state we are in.
789
00:37:24,604 --> 00:37:28,734
I mean, for example, I, I remember, um,
my mother suffered from schizophrenia and
790
00:37:28,739 --> 00:37:31,194
we had a big dog, a huge, big 80 pound
791
00:37:32,394 --> 00:37:35,484
Jay: And I have a bull, so
I I we have a big dog too.
792
00:37:35,544 --> 00:37:36,024
Yes,
793
00:37:36,024 --> 00:37:36,474
Dr. Margit: exactly.
794
00:37:36,479 --> 00:37:37,884
Then you know what I'm talking about.
795
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:41,904
Now, this dog always went to her when she
was about to drift in her other world.
796
00:37:42,294 --> 00:37:44,234
So the dog put her paw in her.
797
00:37:44,424 --> 00:37:47,184
To try to motivate her
to take her for a walk.
798
00:37:47,484 --> 00:37:52,194
So my mother was just about to tip the
way, so this dog was not letting go.
799
00:37:52,524 --> 00:37:55,704
So she kept on doing, doing,
doing until my mother somehow came
800
00:37:55,704 --> 00:37:59,064
back, stood up, took her for a
walk, and came back to reality.
801
00:37:59,304 --> 00:38:04,524
So she really, credits our dog for
helping her to overcome those kind
802
00:38:04,694 --> 00:38:06,234
of, of schizophrenic episodes.
803
00:38:06,234 --> 00:38:10,044
And this shows how sensitive dogs
are because this dog didn't know
804
00:38:10,049 --> 00:38:11,544
what's happening, but it could.
805
00:38:12,444 --> 00:38:15,984
The situation my mother was in, and
this happens to other people as well,
806
00:38:16,284 --> 00:38:20,034
so that's so amazing when we look
at it, and this is nothing about
807
00:38:20,124 --> 00:38:22,854
training a dog or giving a command.
808
00:38:23,064 --> 00:38:27,594
The dog does it on its own because
they can sense the situation and they
809
00:38:27,594 --> 00:38:29,154
try to help you to get you out of
810
00:38:29,154 --> 00:38:29,304
Jay: it.
811
00:38:29,614 --> 00:38:33,104
I think it senses all of our mental
illness and it mental illness is the
812
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:34,764
moment that we're left from the now.
813
00:38:34,764 --> 00:38:34,854
Yes.
814
00:38:34,944 --> 00:38:37,284
The moment that we start
looking somewhere that doesn't.
815
00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:41,274
That's the moment that
animals start to intervene.
816
00:38:41,274 --> 00:38:45,264
What you're describing to me is when you
become involved with that cyclone within
817
00:38:45,264 --> 00:38:50,094
the head, that's the moment that an animal
will reach out and put it, yes, my dog.
818
00:38:50,099 --> 00:38:55,134
My dog will actually make an audible, like
small wolf at me if I'm standing somewhere
819
00:38:55,344 --> 00:39:00,324
and not doing anything and just thinking
she'll do that to break my attention.
820
00:39:00,784 --> 00:39:01,234
Brilliant.
821
00:39:01,234 --> 00:39:01,894
Dr. Margit: It's super weird.
822
00:39:02,134 --> 00:39:02,374
Yes.
823
00:39:02,434 --> 00:39:02,554
Yeah.
824
00:39:02,554 --> 00:39:06,064
But because she can sense it,
she can sense the change in you.
825
00:39:06,364 --> 00:39:10,684
And this can be a kind of, Yeah,
a kind of energetic change,
826
00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:12,334
even a kinda chemical change.
827
00:39:12,339 --> 00:39:15,574
But they can sense it and she tries
to bring you back to the present
828
00:39:15,574 --> 00:39:19,144
moment and to bring you back into
reality and to get you out that, and
829
00:39:19,384 --> 00:39:20,794
they have the ability to do that.
830
00:39:21,094 --> 00:39:25,264
And that's the fantastic thing once
you hear her making this kinda woo and.
831
00:39:25,669 --> 00:39:28,819
You come back and you're out of
the situation and like this, she
832
00:39:28,819 --> 00:39:30,559
saves you again and again and again.
833
00:39:31,099 --> 00:39:37,669
Jay: You gotta wonder if it's a
preventative situation for them that
834
00:39:37,669 --> 00:39:42,289
it's harder to get they're human
because I, I think it's vice versa.
835
00:39:42,289 --> 00:39:42,859
They own us.
836
00:39:42,859 --> 00:39:43,409
We don't own them.
837
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:49,599
, and I Do you maybe think that they're
trying to stop a larger energetic
838
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,619
shift within their environment by
keeping the human from going bat
839
00:39:53,619 --> 00:39:59,739
shit crazy and causing like a long
term, you know, 24 hour mood or long
840
00:39:59,739 --> 00:40:04,359
term situation that the dog has to
deal with because they're much more
841
00:40:04,359 --> 00:40:06,189
susceptible, like you said, to our energy.
842
00:40:06,549 --> 00:40:09,159
They feel us when we are not balanced.
843
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,799
That's why crazy dogs belong to crazy.
844
00:40:12,939 --> 00:40:14,169
That's just how it works.
845
00:40:14,169 --> 00:40:17,769
If you've got a neurotic owner,
you've got a neurotic dog.
846
00:40:18,099 --> 00:40:20,379
Like it just, that's how it works.
847
00:40:20,769 --> 00:40:24,819
So maybe they're trying to just control
their environment and keep us in check.
848
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:25,359
They
849
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:28,319
Dr. Margit: definitely try to keep it
850
00:40:31,809 --> 00:40:32,319
to, to it.
851
00:40:33,089 --> 00:40:35,582
.
Jay: I, I'm giving my dog a lot
of credit cuz she's always looking
852
00:40:35,582 --> 00:40:37,112
at me like I've lost my mind.
853
00:40:37,112 --> 00:40:39,302
So it's her
854
00:40:40,022 --> 00:40:40,622
Gary: very perceptive.
855
00:40:41,562 --> 00:40:44,772
Probably when you're talking about
cyclones in, uh, snow globes,
856
00:40:44,772 --> 00:40:45,642
like what are you talking about?
857
00:40:45,642 --> 00:40:46,812
No one understands what
you're talking about.
858
00:40:47,172 --> 00:40:47,752
Jay: She does.
859
00:40:47,757 --> 00:40:48,372
She looks at me
860
00:40:49,722 --> 00:40:53,202
.
Gary: It's like how they, uh, on they
get sense earthquakes and hurricanes and
861
00:40:53,202 --> 00:40:55,182
all kind of danger, like ahead of time.
862
00:40:55,187 --> 00:40:55,392
Jay: Exactly.
863
00:40:55,452 --> 00:40:55,872
Yes.
864
00:40:55,872 --> 00:40:56,672
It smelled cancer.
865
00:40:56,997 --> 00:41:01,297
They can spell diabetic
changes in insulin scenarios.
866
00:41:01,302 --> 00:41:01,377
Yes.
867
00:41:01,377 --> 00:41:01,797
That's
868
00:41:01,977 --> 00:41:02,577
Dr. Margit: insane.
869
00:41:02,577 --> 00:41:02,937
Exactly.
870
00:41:02,937 --> 00:41:03,097
Yeah.
871
00:41:03,097 --> 00:41:03,337
That's nuts.
872
00:41:03,342 --> 00:41:03,657
Exactly.
873
00:41:03,867 --> 00:41:04,827
They can even smell covid.
874
00:41:05,277 --> 00:41:10,617
So , they can even smell patients
with covid had been covid patients.
875
00:41:10,977 --> 00:41:13,642
But it shows , how
advanced they are actually.
876
00:41:14,049 --> 00:41:18,339
we always believe we are the crown
of, of everything in this life.
877
00:41:18,339 --> 00:41:21,849
But when you look at animals,
actually at the, honestly, but I
878
00:41:21,849 --> 00:41:23,079
think they're much more advanced than
879
00:41:23,289 --> 00:41:23,609
Dr. Margit_v2_Shorten: we're,
880
00:41:24,009 --> 00:41:27,729
Jay: we're crazy just building shit in
place while they sit there and look at
881
00:41:27,729 --> 00:41:29,049
the heaven they're already sitting in.
882
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:30,459
Yes, exactly.
883
00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:30,909
Gary: Yeah.
884
00:41:30,909 --> 00:41:34,569
We're messing up everything and they're
like, We just need some grass like that.
885
00:41:34,629 --> 00:41:35,079
We're good.
886
00:41:35,439 --> 00:41:36,039
Give us some grass.
887
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:36,489
Like
888
00:41:36,819 --> 00:41:40,299
Dr. Margit: yeah, just go back to the
basics and uh, enjoy the simple life
889
00:41:40,299 --> 00:41:42,189
actually, that's the best for everyone.
890
00:41:42,489 --> 00:41:45,579
Jay: It's almost ironic that we don't
recognize it for the mental illness
891
00:41:45,579 --> 00:41:50,259
that it is, you know, And it's also
super prideful to believe that we're
892
00:41:50,259 --> 00:41:54,969
above all of the other creatures
doing the exact opposite of us.
893
00:41:55,849 --> 00:41:56,359
Exactly.
894
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:58,309
Didn't we learn on Sesame Street?
895
00:41:58,314 --> 00:42:00,139
One of these kids is not like the other.
896
00:42:00,469 --> 00:42:00,649
Yeah.
897
00:42:00,649 --> 00:42:01,729
I was always like, it was basic.
898
00:42:01,729 --> 00:42:04,099
It was like, this one's doing
this, this one's doing this.
899
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,679
Here's the fourth one.
900
00:42:06,919 --> 00:42:09,319
Human being a jackass.
901
00:42:09,739 --> 00:42:11,419
, like it's pretty plain to see.
902
00:42:14,629 --> 00:42:15,119
It's,
903
00:42:16,509 --> 00:42:16,959
Gary: Go ahead.
904
00:42:17,169 --> 00:42:19,539
I would just love to like
get inside an animal's head.
905
00:42:19,689 --> 00:42:23,279
Like what are they thinking when we're
just doing this jackass stuff constantly.
906
00:42:23,284 --> 00:42:26,999
Like are they sitting there judging
us like, or especially cats.
907
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:29,029
Cats are always judging everybody.
908
00:42:29,029 --> 00:42:30,589
They just sit there and just judging.
909
00:42:30,829 --> 00:42:32,359
I'd say hats don't count.
910
00:42:32,749 --> 00:42:32,959
Yeah.
911
00:42:34,789 --> 00:42:37,159
,
Dr. Margit: I think they suddenly
are wondering sometimes what we are
912
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,769
really doing and they're thinking,
you know, you guys, you're crazy.
913
00:42:40,099 --> 00:42:40,579
One stupid.
914
00:42:41,089 --> 00:42:41,749
Are you doing
915
00:42:41,929 --> 00:42:44,659
Jay: cats will eat your soft
parts as soon as you die.
916
00:42:45,009 --> 00:42:48,219
I don't care what love of affair you've
had with that cat for the last 12
917
00:42:48,219 --> 00:42:52,059
years, the moment you croak, it's gonna
be eating your eyeballs and cheeks.
918
00:42:52,059 --> 00:42:53,139
Within seconds.
919
00:42:53,379 --> 00:42:54,459
It's not gonna care.
920
00:42:54,464 --> 00:42:55,599
You are now lunch.
921
00:42:55,899 --> 00:42:57,999
like that love is gone.
922
00:42:58,929 --> 00:42:59,439
That's slow.
923
00:42:59,439 --> 00:43:00,549
Dog will lay there.
924
00:43:00,549 --> 00:43:02,049
Mourn wine.
925
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:02,739
How old?
926
00:43:02,744 --> 00:43:03,029
Yes.
927
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:04,089
Won't do anything.
928
00:43:04,149 --> 00:43:06,939
Cat, you are next on the menu.
929
00:43:08,369 --> 00:43:09,599
Dr. Margit: Dogs are different than cats.
930
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:09,929
Definitely.
931
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:10,259
Yeah.
932
00:43:11,139 --> 00:43:11,629
. Yeah.
933
00:43:11,819 --> 00:43:12,629
Yes, that's true.
934
00:43:12,629 --> 00:43:16,319
Cats are very independent and they
love you for the food, but the
935
00:43:16,324 --> 00:43:18,389
dogs, they love you for yourself.
936
00:43:18,394 --> 00:43:19,229
That's the beauty of
937
00:43:19,234 --> 00:43:19,409
Jay: it.
938
00:43:20,489 --> 00:43:23,759
. Yeah, I, I had a gentleman tell me a
joke one time and I'm gonna butcher
939
00:43:23,759 --> 00:43:25,949
it, but, um, I was in the barber shop.
940
00:43:26,184 --> 00:43:32,854
And he said, , if you put your wife and
your dog in the trunk of your car and
941
00:43:32,854 --> 00:43:37,024
came back 10 minutes later and opened
it, which one would be happy to see?
942
00:43:38,554 --> 00:43:39,174
the dog.
943
00:43:39,894 --> 00:43:40,374
the dog.
944
00:43:40,914 --> 00:43:41,534
The dog.
945
00:43:43,594 --> 00:43:44,704
The, the will.
946
00:43:45,694 --> 00:43:49,234
But there's a lot of
profoundness to this statement.
947
00:43:49,234 --> 00:43:49,294
Yeah.
948
00:43:50,059 --> 00:43:54,829
The dog simply knows it's not in
the trunk anymore, does not care.
949
00:43:54,829 --> 00:44:01,669
It's still, now wife literally could hold
it until the end of time as the thing that
950
00:44:01,674 --> 00:44:03,769
broke them down to the point of death.
951
00:44:04,439 --> 00:44:06,929
They will never even see light again.
952
00:44:06,929 --> 00:44:10,679
Won't get in a car, won't, you
can't say the word Buick near 'em.
953
00:44:10,889 --> 00:44:15,599
You can't do like all sorts of
condoled shit, but in reality they
954
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,129
were just in a trunk for 10 minutes.
955
00:44:18,389 --> 00:44:18,629
.
Gary: Yeah.
956
00:44:18,809 --> 00:44:20,429
Society would judge you worse too.
957
00:44:20,429 --> 00:44:22,649
Like that guy put a dog in a trunk.
958
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,359
Oh, the wife, I understand.
959
00:44:24,359 --> 00:44:25,979
She was probably giving him a hard time.
960
00:44:26,219 --> 00:44:26,669
The dog.
961
00:44:27,269 --> 00:44:27,599
Wow.
962
00:44:27,779 --> 00:44:28,349
I hate that.
963
00:44:28,349 --> 00:44:29,369
I hate that guy forever.
964
00:44:29,579 --> 00:44:30,299
The wife, like I
965
00:44:30,469 --> 00:44:30,749
Jay: did it.
966
00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:31,979
Did that dog mate.
967
00:44:31,979 --> 00:44:32,129
For.
968
00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:33,174
Even more
969
00:44:35,854 --> 00:44:38,934
.
Dr. Margit: That's if you wanna
have a great partner, get a dog.
970
00:44:38,934 --> 00:44:41,464
You know, , this gonna
be the past of our life.
971
00:44:42,624 --> 00:44:44,244
.
Gary: We're not gonna
give you any crap ever.
972
00:44:44,484 --> 00:44:47,004
They might get a little excited
and chew up your couch one day, but
973
00:44:47,004 --> 00:44:48,324
that's about as bad as gonna get.
974
00:44:48,534 --> 00:44:49,914
Jay: They're always happy to see you.
975
00:44:50,154 --> 00:44:51,504
There's, there's, yes.
976
00:44:51,504 --> 00:44:53,874
The forgiveness doesn't
even have to exist.
977
00:44:53,904 --> 00:44:54,544
Yes, it's, yes.
978
00:44:54,549 --> 00:44:55,424
Not even a.
979
00:44:55,869 --> 00:44:56,169
Dr. Margit: Yes.
980
00:44:56,379 --> 00:44:58,479
And even they know when you
are coming home, like when
981
00:44:58,479 --> 00:44:59,799
I'm traveling, for example.
982
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:05,829
Even, yes, they dunno when I come, but
my dog sits at the door from the morning.
983
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:10,749
I'm traveling, I'm reaching in the
night and he'll sit there the day not
984
00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:14,379
eating, not drinking, not going out for
a walk, just waiting, waiting, waiting.
985
00:45:14,384 --> 00:45:16,059
Because he knows I'm coming on that day.
986
00:45:16,299 --> 00:45:20,169
And that's spectacular cause how he knows
the date of my flight and the time of my.
987
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:21,619
But they know it.
988
00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:22,969
They had this connection.
989
00:45:23,209 --> 00:45:23,389
Yeah.
990
00:45:23,659 --> 00:45:24,049
I saw
991
00:45:24,049 --> 00:45:26,659
Jay: a study on that where they
were, they took like a certain amount
992
00:45:26,659 --> 00:45:30,229
of people, a certain amount of dog
owners, and they sent them out of the
993
00:45:30,234 --> 00:45:32,989
home and they monitored the animals.
994
00:45:32,989 --> 00:45:37,789
And what they found was the
moment that the person made the
995
00:45:37,789 --> 00:45:40,259
cognitive decision to return home.
996
00:45:40,799 --> 00:45:44,519
The dog's demeanor changed
and it started to monitor the
997
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,219
entrance for the owner's return.
998
00:45:47,309 --> 00:45:47,789
It's crazy.
999
00:45:47,789 --> 00:45:50,429
It's so effing weird, like I love it.
1000
00:45:51,059 --> 00:45:51,899
But it just shows.
1001
00:45:51,899 --> 00:45:56,579
The thing is we have no clue
how much we're capable of.
1002
00:45:56,879 --> 00:45:57,029
Yes.
1003
00:45:57,089 --> 00:46:00,269
If we're the most intelligent
creature on the planet, imagine
1004
00:46:00,269 --> 00:46:04,199
the moment that we harnessed
mindfulness and started kicking ass.
1005
00:46:04,439 --> 00:46:09,479
We would be unstoppable if they can
feel us from fucking light years away.
1006
00:46:09,569 --> 00:46:09,689
Yes.
1007
00:46:09,749 --> 00:46:11,729
Just because we decided to go home.
1008
00:46:12,089 --> 00:46:13,539
Imagine what we're cap.
1009
00:46:13,934 --> 00:46:14,324
Exactly.
1010
00:46:14,324 --> 00:46:14,384
Gary: Yeah.
1011
00:46:14,384 --> 00:46:16,754
We would use that for evil like humans.
1012
00:46:16,754 --> 00:46:19,754
We use that for like weaponize
it where the dog just wants
1013
00:46:19,759 --> 00:46:20,714
to see you when you get home.
1014
00:46:20,924 --> 00:46:22,304
That's it thing.
1015
00:46:22,304 --> 00:46:22,454
Yeah.
1016
00:46:23,084 --> 00:46:23,354
Jay: Yes.
1017
00:46:23,354 --> 00:46:23,414
The
1018
00:46:23,419 --> 00:46:24,374
Dr. Margit: dog's just happy.
1019
00:46:24,614 --> 00:46:25,814
It's just how beautiful.
1020
00:46:25,814 --> 00:46:28,694
It's for us actually to have
somebody who knows that we are
1021
00:46:28,694 --> 00:46:32,654
coming home, who waits for us and
who has this instinctive connection.
1022
00:46:33,014 --> 00:46:37,514
This connection that is so strong,
it's such a strong bond that we
1023
00:46:37,514 --> 00:46:39,044
cannot, we cannot even imagine it.
1024
00:46:39,044 --> 00:46:40,724
We will not have it
with other people even.
1025
00:46:40,724 --> 00:46:44,654
I mean, how, how are your wife or
anybody know when you're coming home?
1026
00:46:44,894 --> 00:46:49,967
So this is such a strong, and
it shows really how, The mind
1027
00:46:50,237 --> 00:46:52,037
of dogs is really different.
1028
00:46:52,037 --> 00:46:56,207
How, how, you know, how they're
kind of energetic field works
1029
00:46:56,207 --> 00:46:57,617
in a completely different way.
1030
00:46:57,622 --> 00:47:01,244
Their sensory is, it's just out of this
world and once we start to understand
1031
00:47:01,249 --> 00:47:06,284
it, then we appreciate them so much more
and then we really know what value they
1032
00:47:06,354 --> 00:47:06,794
Jay: have past.
1033
00:47:06,794 --> 00:47:07,634
Absolutely.
1034
00:47:07,744 --> 00:47:10,964
I think that's like the best place
to draw this to a conclusion.
1035
00:47:11,821 --> 00:47:15,421
mean, everybody loves hearing about the
bond between humans and animals, and I
1036
00:47:15,421 --> 00:47:20,403
think if the one thing they should take
away from this is that, we need to cherish
1037
00:47:20,403 --> 00:47:26,133
them, spend time with them, and recognize
that they're a key to mindfulness
1038
00:47:26,138 --> 00:47:28,263
that we're not utilizing correctly.
1039
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,840
I think that it's so fantastic
that you advocate not just for
1040
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,340
a specific animal, but all.
1041
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,370
, that they can be healers for
all of us out there, whether
1042
00:47:39,370 --> 00:47:41,320
it be a falcon or a Guinea pig.
1043
00:47:41,587 --> 00:47:44,351
you're gonna get a bond with that
animal because that animal doesn't
1044
00:47:44,351 --> 00:47:45,881
think about the past or the future.
1045
00:47:45,971 --> 00:47:47,741
It's 100% dedicated to you.
1046
00:47:48,011 --> 00:47:48,191
Dr. Margit: Yes.
1047
00:47:48,641 --> 00:47:52,631
And it loves you as you are
without any kind of layers.
1048
00:47:52,636 --> 00:47:55,141
It just loves the pure real.
1049
00:47:55,151 --> 00:47:58,721
You, You don't have to pretend anything,
You don't have to put on a show.
1050
00:47:58,721 --> 00:48:00,781
You don't have to put on anything.
1051
00:48:00,786 --> 00:48:02,861
It's just loves you as you really are.
1052
00:48:02,891 --> 00:48:05,291
And this is so celebrating for us as well.
1053
00:48:05,561 --> 00:48:07,811
You, you don't have to
pretend something to.
1054
00:48:08,571 --> 00:48:09,981
You can just be yourself.
1055
00:48:09,981 --> 00:48:11,541
Authenticity, and that, yeah, that's it.
1056
00:48:11,661 --> 00:48:14,511
This authentic you and
that's what you can be.
1057
00:48:14,511 --> 00:48:16,161
And that's so beautiful actually.
1058
00:48:16,161 --> 00:48:18,861
And that's what we should really
c cherish and, and appreciate so
1059
00:48:18,861 --> 00:48:23,061
much more because it gives us this
feeling, this, this peace and this this
1060
00:48:23,211 --> 00:48:25,491
authentic you and, and that's marvelous.
1061
00:48:25,521 --> 00:48:27,111
Jay: We need to learn to love like a dog.
1062
00:48:27,116 --> 00:48:27,451
Oh.
1063
00:48:27,831 --> 00:48:29,961
If he could do this love
like a dog would change.
1064
00:48:29,961 --> 00:48:31,221
Believe me, it would.
1065
00:48:31,221 --> 00:48:31,671
Man.
1066
00:48:31,671 --> 00:48:33,861
I'm gonna get a T-shirt
that says love like a dog.
1067
00:48:34,371 --> 00:48:34,581
Yes.
1068
00:48:35,031 --> 00:48:38,361
Dr. Margit: Nobody loves you as
truthful and as unconditional as a
1069
00:48:38,361 --> 00:48:38,661
Jay: dog.
1070
00:48:39,711 --> 00:48:41,211
I think that's a great place to end.
1071
00:48:41,541 --> 00:48:41,901
Dr.
1072
00:48:41,901 --> 00:48:44,451
Margaret, I can't thank
you enough for coming on.
1073
00:48:44,451 --> 00:48:49,011
I could listen to you for days because
you're such a wealth of information
1074
00:48:49,101 --> 00:48:50,601
and you have such a great energy.
1075
00:48:50,601 --> 00:48:51,741
You're super happy.
1076
00:48:51,981 --> 00:48:54,831
I can tell you love what you're
doing, which means a lot.
1077
00:48:54,831 --> 00:48:55,881
That's shows.
1078
00:48:56,391 --> 00:49:00,351
If you're authentic and you pursue your
passions, you will have a happy life,
1079
00:49:00,501 --> 00:49:02,481
or at least one that feels fulfilling.
1080
00:49:02,781 --> 00:49:03,501
Dr. Margit: Thank you so much.
1081
00:49:03,501 --> 00:49:03,741
Yes.
1082
00:49:03,741 --> 00:49:06,921
I think that's the key for everything
to, Yeah, to live the passion and
1083
00:49:06,921 --> 00:49:09,381
to live a happy life, and that's
what we should always strive for.
1084
00:49:09,381 --> 00:49:11,151
And thank you so much for inviting me.
1085
00:49:11,171 --> 00:49:13,431
I, I really enjoyed this podcast so much.
1086
00:49:13,431 --> 00:49:14,451
You're really great guys.
1087
00:49:14,451 --> 00:49:16,491
And it was just have a lovely podcast.
1088
00:49:16,491 --> 00:49:17,251
Thank you so
1089
00:49:17,251 --> 00:49:17,411
Jay: much.
1090
00:49:17,836 --> 00:49:18,586
So thank you very much.
1091
00:49:18,586 --> 00:49:21,556
Gary, you got anything you
wanna ask before we wrap up?
1092
00:49:21,916 --> 00:49:22,246
Gary: No.
1093
00:49:22,246 --> 00:49:25,486
I'd least like you to come back on
sometime and, uh, we have so many
1094
00:49:25,486 --> 00:49:27,946
different things you're doing that I
think we just scratched the surface.
1095
00:49:27,946 --> 00:49:31,696
So I think, you know, anytime you
want, come back and we'll have
1096
00:49:31,696 --> 00:49:33,946
a lot more questions and we'll
figure out the snow globe thing.
1097
00:49:33,951 --> 00:49:34,876
Would you bring a falcon on
1098
00:49:37,846 --> 00:49:39,196
?
Jay: I want a falcon in a snow globe.
1099
00:49:39,856 --> 00:49:40,516
Yeah, but
1100
00:49:41,116 --> 00:49:41,956
Gary: that's, a cool idea.
1101
00:49:43,216 --> 00:49:44,106
, I see.
1102
00:49:45,061 --> 00:49:48,631
Dr. Margit: No, I come back because I
think the audience can really benefit a
1103
00:49:48,631 --> 00:49:50,371
lot from these kind of different topics.
1104
00:49:50,371 --> 00:49:53,911
That's what we all try to do to, to
create better lives for everybody
1105
00:49:53,916 --> 00:49:55,591
Jay: and have that's,
that's what we're here for.
1106
00:49:55,591 --> 00:49:58,471
So next time we need to do a live session.
1107
00:49:58,471 --> 00:50:03,541
Get your laptop or your phone, bring
it into the, uh, into the clinic.
1108
00:50:03,911 --> 00:50:05,321
So we can see a falcon.
1109
00:50:05,801 --> 00:50:05,861
Wow.
1110
00:50:06,311 --> 00:50:06,341
Okay.
1111
00:50:06,341 --> 00:50:08,921
We'll do that . That would be super cool.
1112
00:50:08,921 --> 00:50:10,001
I would love to see
1113
00:50:11,231 --> 00:50:12,071
Gary: That's badass.
1114
00:50:12,071 --> 00:50:12,131
Yeah.
1115
00:50:12,131 --> 00:50:12,551
They're so cool.
1116
00:50:13,931 --> 00:50:14,411
.
Jay: Awesome.
1117
00:50:14,711 --> 00:50:17,201
Well, thank you so much for
coming on and remember everybody
1118
00:50:17,201 --> 00:50:18,791
be cool and keep learning.